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Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

Sao Spam: What do you think "CHARGE DISMISSED" means? Zero evidence of injury by a saw. DUH! But thanks for demonstrating mountain bikers' interest in spreading LIES. Keep it up! You are helping me more than you know!

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Posted by mjvande on 07/24/2018 at 10:00 AM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

So you didn't even touch them with your saw? They acquired saw-like injuries from some other mountain biking hazard?

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Posted by Sao Spam on 07/19/2018 at 6:01 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

Sao Spam: You obviously aren't very bright. Why would a 67-year-old man assault two mountain bikers in front of three witnesses? Obviously, he wouldn't, and didn't. The mountain bikers tried to blame me for their own self-caused accident, while mountain biking illegally. My lawyer worked for free. Clearly, you aren't teachable, nor can you do your own research, nor do you have any common sense. All you are capable of doing is lying and probably injuring yourself - all mountain bikers do, after all! Not very bright.... Why would anyone who actually had a life want to mountain bike? They WOULDN'T: too BORING!

Posted by Mike Vandeman on 07/19/2018 at 5:28 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

I would guess it's because you paid your lawyer *a lot* of money? And/or the jury's IQ was even lower than your credibility?

I would *not* guess that it's because you didn't actually assault anyone. To me that is the least likely explanation actually.

Posted by Sao Spam on 07/19/2018 at 5:16 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

Sao Spam: "I did my homework. And all available information has led me to the conclusion that you did in fact assault those people with a saw." BS. Why do you think the charge was DISMISSED? If that's how you do your "homework", you must still be in kindergarten. You aren't even honest to use your real name! Everything you say is WORTHLESS. So are you.

But, hey, thanks for helping me show the world exactly what mountain bikers are like: DISHONEST TO THE CORE.

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Posted by Mike Vandeman on 07/18/2018 at 12:43 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

I did my homework. And all available information has led me to the conclusion that you did in fact assault those people with a saw.

Your credibility on this topic is obviously extremely low. I offered you a suggestion to improve it and in reply you inferred that I am irresponsible. That is both personally hurtful and a weak argument.

Mike Vandeman will NEVER tell the truth about his decades long campaign of harassment and assault against a group of people who care far more about protecting natural ecosystems than he does.

PS - I love that you put "attack" in quotes. Always read the fine print eh?

Posted by Sao Spam on 07/18/2018 at 11:59 AM

Re: “Fire ban to take effect today, July 18

As a kid we never had these bans. We had hot dry summers too. These bans are necessary for all the people who have no sense about the outdoors. Sad.

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Posted by Patrick Smyth on 07/18/2018 at 10:52 AM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

Sao Spam: Do your own homework, like responsible people do. No one cares whether you believe that 1 + 1 = 2.

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Posted by Mike Vandeman on 07/18/2018 at 4:54 AM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

You should take a page from OJ's book and track down the real saw guy. Then I might believe you.

Posted by Sao Spam on 07/18/2018 at 12:52 AM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

Sao Spam: Yes, it does! The mountain bikers invented that charge to draw attention away from their illegal mountain biking. The charge was dropped because there was no evidence to support it. DUH!

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Posted by Mike Vandeman on 07/17/2018 at 9:53 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

But "all charges dismissed" does not mean "I did not attack anyone with a saw" right?

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Posted by Sao Spam on 07/17/2018 at 9:36 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

Lee Lau: Sorry to disappoint you, but "all charges dismissed" means exactly what it says. All I did was report illegal mountain biking, which was a lot of fun!

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Posted by Mike Vandeman on 07/17/2018 at 7:33 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

Mike Vandeman - I understand you are embarrassed about being a convicted criminal. There is no need to deny your record of criminal behaviour nor deny your mental lassitude. Surely there can be help for you

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Posted by Lee Lau on 07/17/2018 at 7:04 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

Lee Lau: Thanks for demonstrating, for the whole world to see, exactly what mountain bikers are like: they NEVER tell the truth. I've never been a felon or "attacked" anyone, which is why all charges were DISMISSED, which you already knew. Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies!

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Posted by mjvande on 07/17/2018 at 6:18 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

When reading Mike Vandeman's comments take in consideration that Mike is a convicted felon having assaulted mountain-bikers for riding trails. It is a reasonable inference that Mike Vandeman is deranged and not of sound mind as well as having criminal intent

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Posted by Lee Lau on 07/17/2018 at 4:58 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

Sao Spam: It never happened. That's why the charge was dismissed (but you already knew that, and chose to lie about it)! But thanks for reinforcing my impression that mountain bikers never tell the truth. You can have Trump. He will fit in just fine.

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Posted by Mike Vandeman on 07/17/2018 at 2:41 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

There is already enough biking trails and with trails brings tourists and with tourists brings trash. Keep it natural. I'm saying no to more trails. Traditional Statimc/Lilwat Territory

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Posted by Karen BouselmiThevarge on 07/17/2018 at 2:15 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

EVERY SINGLE drop zome represents critical wildlife habitat. EVERY single main game trail/migration route in the Sea to Sky is being turned into a mountain bike park - EVERY SINGLE ONE. Now you need more? Is it not good enough Whistler/Blackcomb were built in the middle of a massive wintering zone for moose, deer and 'used to be' grizzly and mountain goat habitat and now is not? The entire mountain is a summer mountain bike park...not good enough? Done a count on grizzlies and mountain goats on Whistler and Blackcomb lately? I can do it for you - zero. NO, you do NOT need to be air dropped on the last of the least touched wild life habitat that is left. I'll fight it tooth and nail and rally hundreds of thousands to oppose for sure. Enough is enough.

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Posted by howtohunt.com on 07/16/2018 at 3:09 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

Mike thank you for your concern for our safety! I assume that's what motivated you to attack those other mountain bikers with a saw?

http://www.cyclelicio.us/2010/mike-vandeman-arrested-for-assault-with-deadly-weapon/

Also... as much as you and your joke-of-a-president might wish it... your federal court decisions are quite insignificant outside the USA.

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Posted by Sao Spam on 07/16/2018 at 3:03 PM

Re: “Pemberton heli-biking proposal raises concerns

This project would be an unmitigated disaster for the wildlife, effectively destroying their habitat by making it unusable.

Bicycles should not be allowed in any natural area. They are inanimate objects and have no rights. There is also no right to mountain bike. That was settled in federal court in 1996: https://mjvande.info/mtb10.htm . It's dishonest of mountain bikers to say that they don't have access to trails closed to bikes. They have EXACTLY the same access as everyone else -- ON FOOT! Why isn't that good enough for mountain bikers? They are all capable of walking....

A favorite myth of mountain bikers is that mountain biking is no more harmful to wildlife, people, and the environment than hiking, and that science supports that view. Of course, it's not true. To settle the matter once and for all, I read all of the research they cited, and wrote a review of the research on mountain biking impacts (see https://mjvande.info/scb7.htm ). I found that of the seven studies they cited, (1) all were written by mountain bikers, and (2) in every case, the authors misinterpreted their own data, in order to come to the conclusion that they favored. They also studiously avoided mentioning another scientific study (Wisdom et al) which did not favor mountain biking, and came to the opposite conclusions.

Mountain bikers also love to build new trails - legally or illegally. Of course, trail-building destroys wildlife habitat - not just in the trail bed, but in a wide swath to both sides of the trail! E.g. grizzlies can hear a human from one mile away, and smell us from 5 miles away. Thus, a 10-mile trail represents 100 square miles of destroyed or degraded habitat, that animals are inhibited from using. Mountain biking, trail building, and trail maintenance all increase the number of people in the park, thereby preventing the animals' full use of their habitat. See https://mjvande.info/scb9.htm for details.

Mountain biking accelerates erosion, creates V-shaped ruts, kills small animals and plants on and next to the trail, drives wildlife and other trail users out of the area, and, worst of all, teaches kids that the rough treatment of nature is okay (it's NOT!). What's good about THAT?

To see exactly what harm mountain biking does to the land, watch this 5-minute video: http://vimeo.com/48784297.

In addition to all of this, it is extremely dangerous: https://mjvande.info/mtb_dangerous.htm .

For more information: https://mjvande.info/mtbfaq.htm .

The common thread among those who want more recreation in our parks is total ignorance about and disinterest in the wildlife whose homes these parks are. Yes, if humans are the only beings that matter, it is simply a conflict among humans (but even then, allowing bikes on trails harms the MAJORITY of park users -- hikers and equestrians -- who can no longer safely and peacefully enjoy their parks).

The parks aren't gymnasiums or racetracks or even human playgrounds. They are WILDLIFE HABITAT, which is precisely why they are attractive to humans. Activities such as mountain biking, that destroy habitat, violate the charter of the parks.

Even kayaking and rafting, which give humans access to the entirety of a water body, prevent the wildlife that live there from making full use of their habitat, and should not be allowed. Of course those who think that only humans matter won't understand what I am talking about -- an indication of the sad state of our culture and educational system.

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Posted by Mike Vandeman on 07/15/2018 at 7:16 PM

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