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Re: “Be prepared for Preppers

Dear Les,
You have an interesting perspective on preppers, which seems to be thick on generalizations and thin on actual first-hand experiences. I'm amused by your descriptions of people like me as mouth breathers, intellectually inferior rednecks with white supremacist leanings, uneducated cavemen just itching for hell to break loose. I have to ask if you've ever spent even an hour with a group of preparers, getting to know them personally, and digging beyond your sophomoric preconceptions about "us." As with any group of people, I'm sure there are preppers who fit perfectly the picture you just painted, and there is likely a much wider, much more intriguing swath of people who you have no understanding of at all.
Nina in WI

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Posted by Nina on 06/11/2015 at 1:42 PM

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1) I would like to extend an invitation to you to interview some of us in our community. I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you, a person who seeks knowledge, would like to learn more about our community before finalizing judgment against us. A wise person seeks to see from all perspectives before making decisions.

2) Every group of people has a subset of fringe lunatics -- even the groups you belong to. To infer of the general based on observations of the specific is a logical fallacy that someone of your intellect should understand. Furthermore, to make an inference based on what you have chosen -only- to see because of personal, preformed prejudice is just as illogical.

3) We are a diverse group of people. Yes, we can admit the existence of those you mention; however we are not -only- those people. We are of every age group, every hue of the gender spectrum, every mix of ethnicity, every level of formal and informal education, from every place, belonging to every creed, having varied political views; we are married, divorced, single, rural, suburban, urban, farmers, physicians, industrial workers, attorneys, professors, CEO's, veterans, first responders, salespeople, students, business owners, and even journalists.

4) I am an Asian male in my late 30's with a post-graduate education from UC Berkeley, I live in a suburb close to a major city. I am the Chief Operating Officer of my company, as well as a Vice Chairman of my State political party and have served not only in public office but also as a former US Army Special Forces Officer and as a team leader in other government and civilian humanitarian aid organizations and agencies. I have seen firsthand the effects of major disasters, both overseas and in the United States over the past twenty years. In every case, governments have been ill prepared to handle the disasters and those who have the greatest chance of survival are those who have put forth the effort to become educated, trained, and personally prepared for disasters. Reserve your condemnation for those who have taken the initiative to keep their families safe until you understand the full scale of the topic of your writing and the reality of being unprepared in a disaster.

5) To better understand the topic you are writing on, be scientific and gather as many data points as you are reasonably able to. To be a respectable journalist, write only after you have thoroughly investigated and examined that which you are writing about. I offer this to you as a personal challenge for the sake of your journalistic integrity.

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Posted by James Lee on 06/11/2015 at 8:12 PM

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"...but hey — those bastards have all the gear and food and fish antibiotics you'll ever need."

That sort of attitude is exactly why some preppers include guns and ammo.

My wife (Phi Beta Kappa undergrad, & Masters degree) and I (BA degree) live in Hawaii. I am embarrassed to admit that we live in a house, not a trailer. Sorry about that.

According to FEMA, the Hawaii Department of Emergency Management, the Honolulu Fire Department, the Board of Water Supply, the Red Cross, and several other mouth breathing groups, no one is going to come to our succor (Ooooooh: a big word!) for perhaps more than a week after a hit from a hurricane. That includes the Honolulu Police Department, if one can reach them despite the cell towers and phone lines being down: they will be too busy to respond to individual calls for help, and by their own admission you won't be able to call them anyway.

If you think being armed is ridiculous, try answering this question: How safe would you feel if all of the few predators in your area knew for a fact that unlike normal times, none of their preferred prey could call anyone, much less call the police? Suppose some illiterate mouth breather took a shine to you or yours: What would you do? Throw your cell phone at him? Open a dialog, explore his hopes and wants, need and aspirations, his deficient childhood and the resulting attitudes toward authors?

No one is going to be trucking in relief supplies and emergency repair crews from the adjoining states the day after a hurricane or major earthquake. We store water and food, medical supplies, and a few other things dear to we mouth breathing types so that we will not only not be a burden on others, but we will be able to help others.

We will be able to help our neighbors with water, food, first aid, and even that most mind-bendingly stupid thing of all, security.

What would you be able to do for your neighbors, Leslie? Organize a protest?

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Posted by Tom Bosworth on 06/11/2015 at 7:38 PM

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All I can do is shake my head. Yes sir, I am a Prepper. I have enough food, water, and so on to keep my family as safe and free from fear and worry as I possibly can. You know, just in case I lose my job, or maybe a storm knocks out our power for a week, or I get sick or injured, or even if some catastrophe should occur. I can only assume that you are one of two other types of people. #1, if a personal disaster should effect your life, you think your money will save you. Even if an ice storm or some such event makes it impossible for you to get to the store, or turn your power back on. Money can fix anything, right? Or, #2, you are the kind of person that figures you can always run back to Mom and Dad if things aren't going your way. Well, sir, if you are lucky enough to survive long enough to find someone like me that is willing to help you out, as long as you pull your own weight, you might find the value in what we believe. But like you already stated above, you just plan to take what you want from those that have prepared. Good luck with that. All that research you supposedly did, and you didn't even figure out what a REAL Prepper is all about. Shoddy research is all I can figure. Oh, and by the way, I don't belong to any militia, I'm not a Christian, I am well educated, and I work for a living, with no help from any government entity. But, I do not make one dime from sitting behind a computer screen bashing people that have never done me any harm. Have a good day, sir.

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Posted by Ron Davis on 06/11/2015 at 3:51 PM

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I have been a prepper all my life. my parents - both college grads and my father a major in the USAF - taught me to be ready for anything, especially hurricanes on the gulf coast. this winter was deadly in the north with all the snow and I saw people who knew the storms were coming and didn't even have 3 days of formula for their 2 month old baby. now THAT is stupid beyond words. my daughter has 2 masters degrees and she and her husband keep their house ready for whatever happens. I am retired now and live in a small urban apartment with lots of food and water for myself and a few close neighbors who will need help in an emergency. yes, as stupid as you are, sir, I would probably help you too.

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Posted by Maggi Grs on 06/13/2015 at 4:32 PM

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Hey Les

You've watched too much Doomsday Preppers and have decided that the whole population is as crazy as that "reality show" on fringe society makes their guests out to be. Maybe you should expand your horizons a bit with the prepper sites you read. Graywolf Survival (my site) isn't like anything you've described, and mine isn't the only one. My articles are on emergency preparedness and survival that includes both theory and application, and are very thorough (typically 3000-7000 words). They are based on real-life experience or testing. I also spend a LOT of words on not doing all those crazy things that you're accusing prepper blogs and preppers of doing.

This is just one example of hundreds...


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Posted by Scott Graywolf Kelley on 06/11/2015 at 3:45 PM

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I have multiple degrees in Biological Sciences. I grew up in a rural area where the nearest Emergency Room was at least an hour's drive in any direction, under ideal conditions. We have minimal cell coverage, and didn't get 911 service until 2011. We were ALL preppers up there, because when someone's badly injured, you need to be able to keep that person alive till you could get them to the hospital. When the power might be out for days at a time, and your town doesn't have "take-out" or a grocery store, you need to know how to get your own food.

Now, for the record, "Biologist" is a trained title. Unless you have a degree in biology, or biological sciences, you really oughtn't be calling yourself such. (Maybe you do have such a degree, I didn't background search. I don't really care that much.)

In all categories, such as your blog, there are people with a small bit of knowledge, and a lot of opinions, telling other folks off. Some of these are wanna-be "preppers" who still think a tampon is a great way to stop bleeding, and couldn't tell nightshade from a blueberry.

Then there are the people who actually quite educated, and have lived in places where the difference between carrying a survival kit in the car (or not) can determine who lives and who dies if they go off the road in below-freezing weather.

Yeah, a lot of tourists died back home. They'd over-estimate their mountaineering skills, be under-prepared, get lost or injured, and, well, not live to learn from their mistakes.

I'm sorry you don't see the values of knowing skills like first aid, how to start a fire without matches or a lighter, or hunting/foraging skills. I'm sure being able to read a map is one of those "unnecessary" skills as well, what with GPS and all. I could go on, at this point, but I think I've pretty much said my peace.

It's ironic you think the term "prepper" doesn't mean rational individuals who value survival skills. and as naive as me saying someone who posts ideas I don't agree with cannot be called an "author."

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Posted by Muse_GSD on 06/11/2015 at 7:34 PM

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People like this author are why i am a prepper and always striving for sustainability and self sufficiency, to decry people who are capable of taking care of themselves and undoubtedly many others as some kind of fringe nutjobs with such a wide stroke of the literary brush speaks volumes of the incompetence of the person writing.

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Posted by Kula Farmer on 06/13/2015 at 8:07 AM

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It's obvious when someone is using a superior vocabulary to mask a lack of substance...the mediocre journalist's equivalent of elevator shoes.

This article has likely brought you more attention than you have ever enjoyed in one sitting, but this brand of tirade only works for a very short while before the right-minded will turn on you.

You may have an uncommon grasp of the language, Les, and this may be an op/ed piece, but your inclination for smug generalization and wholesale derision undermines any credibility you may have as a all comes off as highbrow bullying and an affordance for the belittlement of people who obviously do not see the world with equivalent cognitive horsepower.

Of course, all is forgiven if this was all some sort of satire. Unfortunately, satire only works if one lets the reader in on the joke.

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Posted by Kurt Haverstock on 06/12/2015 at 3:55 PM

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And you are what we preppers call a 'Zombie!' Good luck..

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Posted by Kamay Flemens on 06/11/2015 at 8:46 PM

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What a smug, self serving, know nothing piece of attempted critical crap.

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Posted by Scott Atherton on 06/11/2015 at 4:55 PM

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Les, 5 years ago when I was laid off for 3 months, my family ate well and the bills stayed paid because I believe in living like my parents and grandparents lived. I have plenty of food in the house, save as much as I can and live simply. No one thought it was ridiculous when older generations gardened and canned food to put by for the winter or other hard times. Yes, there are some who have gone overboard, I watched Doomsday Preppers for laughs, but most of us believe in being self reliant so we will never be like the people in the Super Dome during hurricane Katrina, no water for several days waiting on the Government! Laugh at us all you want, when the storm hits and the lights are out for a couple weeks, we will all be dry and well fed!

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Posted by Donna Brown on 06/11/2015 at 6:19 PM

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"Instead, the term more rightly fingers conspiracy theorists and anti-government nut-jobs who are strangely looking forward to a biblical End of Days to descend they can break out their toys and supplies to fight the resulting looting-spree / civil-war / zombie-apocalypse."
You should do some actual research before you create an idea.
You show in this muttering of letters that you have no real knowledge of what, who, or why MOST preppers do what they do.

Just as some authors spew hatred, discontent, and lies; should people consider them all worthless?

I cannot get the time back that I wasted on reading this ignorance.

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Posted by zebras on 06/12/2015 at 1:10 AM

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Les: I'm another well-educated, comfortably-off, small-city-living prepper. I have no immediate needs, except to take care of myself and my family when a disaster strikes. [You'll notice I say WHEN!] One only has to look at the changing weather patterns, the increase in self-destructive behavior such as fracking, oil drilling, oil spills and so on, to know that the likelihood of something bad happening is a near certainty. This doesn't even take into account the sky-high stock market coupled with crippling debt, the terrorism threats, the specter of the possibility of war with a number of nations and so on. When disaster strikes your family and you no longer have a home to go to nor food to feed your family, you will be facing the harsh reality that nobody--not FEMA, not DHS, not any other branch of the government will be prepared to take care of the millions of disenfranchised people. You, sir, will be in the unenviable position of begging the "mouth-breathing uneducated who know nothing more than how to operate a solar oven" for food and information on how to provide shelter for your family. You should be ashamed--acting like a scholar but knowing nothing of which you write!!
Lynnie B, Illinois

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Posted by Lynnie Rob on 06/12/2015 at 10:49 AM

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I'm going to enjoy reading your articles simply for a laugh. Your ignorance on this subject is beyond laughable. You really need to interview a few peppers to have a better picture of who we truly are, instead of browsing the Internet. Being an upper middle class, a large city dweller, I don't fit your description of a prepped. Many of us grow our own gardens, use water catchment systems, repurpose items, just like you liberals. We just happen to have a gun strapped to our hip and our head is on a swivel looking to see if there is trouble, not looking for trouble. Watch out, we are your neighbors, your just don't know it.

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Posted by Melissa Beard on 06/11/2015 at 5:38 PM

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Les in the words of Jackie Gleason YOU ARE A MORON!! That's all I have to say about you your high handed attitude and your bloviated article.

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Posted by MrRatman on 06/13/2015 at 9:03 AM

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The author claims to live in Whistler, but obviously wasn't living there in October 2003 when heavy rains and melting snow caused rivers to swell and wash out the road to Pemberton and Squamish. The two well stocked supermarkets in Pemberton where emptied within a few hours. Items like diapers, baby food, milk, etc had to be flow in by helicopter because people kept only a few days supply of such items. Meanwhile, as a silly prepper, I was high and dry and well stocked, and was listening to the chaos on the scanner and the local radio stations. It was at least a week before a temporary bridge was installed over the Rutherford river, allowing trucks to bring in larger quantities of supplies. I know of many that didn't see prepping in the same way after that incident.

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Posted by Dan Cancade on 06/12/2015 at 10:14 PM

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Lordy...If you think anyone that gets a welfare check can "clean out Costco" of supplies, you have NO idea what being on welfare really is like! It's sub sub SUB poverty level. There IS no $$ for extras! Barely enough for "food" (If you count rice, beans, Walmart 88 cent hotdogs and $1 bologna as food..) The nations poor, disabled and elderly will be the first ones to be counted as likely dead, and ignored; in any national emergency. Those who CAN prepare will survive. How long is based on how well they "prep"! Government won't care, or will attempt to set you up in FEMA camps. Depending on how widespread the disaster is. Fancypants city people will simply not know how to tie their $300 shoes, let alone calm down enough to make decisions. Government is already "prepped" and will make a nosedive into their underground Safe Areas. So what the heck is wrong with storing a few things away?? If you need them, they are there. if not...GREAT!!!

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Posted by Kathy Aston on 06/11/2015 at 7:24 PM

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Hahaha well this article hasn't gotten the response you hoped for, I'd just like to add you seem to be confusing anarchists with Nazi's, Anarchists don't wear swastikas , In fact Anarchists wouldn't have forced Jews into camps just because an authority figure told them a "Journalist" you are pretty lazy about investigating topics

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Posted by Kevin Leahy on 06/12/2015 at 4:31 AM

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I work at US Northern Command. I prep (as do others for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that we leave our homes during disasters to help others). Think about what I said for a moment Got many degrees (so what?).

Fools make themselves vulnerable. Some of the biggest fools are soft - handed intellectuals with big mouths. Are you one? No, I don't think so. I think you are actually fascinated with peppers but don't have the courage to be open about it.

It's ok. Come on in, water's fine.

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