JimmyJones 
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Re: “Bear dies in fall from tree after being tranquilized by COS

Are black bears endangered? Are there plenty of other habitats around BC? Will the loss of a handful of bears in Whistler each year have a damaging effect on the overall population? If they weren't cute would anyone care so much?

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Posted by JimmyJones on 10/12/2018 at 4:14 PM

Re: “Downhill is dead. Long live downhill.

Ha, nice one, Dan

Posted by JimmyJones on 10/10/2018 at 12:36 PM

Re: “The Contentious E-Bike Debate: Fact vs. Opinion

Sorry Mike, my mistake. You're right. The records show your 2010 trial to be Not Guilty on all 6 counts. Your 2011 trial on the other hand shows you were found guilty by jury trial of Battery. Sorry about that. If I've got it wrong again, please let me know?

As for dismissing your research, I am only doing what you so often do, which is to claim the research was carried out by mountain bikers and so must be biased. While I agree that not all the studies I linked were without flaw, I do not agree with the general sentiment that mountain bikers do any more damage to the environment than any other non motorized trail user. To change tact slightly, I don't drive so I'm pretty sure my impact to the environment is a lot lower than anyone who frequently travels by car.

I'm sure your concerns are well meaning but you do not have a good way of engaging in the debate. So before I get dragged any deeper into a 'debate' that isn't worth having, I'm going to bow out.

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Posted by JimmyJones on 10/04/2018 at 6:53 PM

Re: “The Contentious E-Bike Debate: Fact vs. Opinion

I don't usually like to 'play the man' rather than the ball, but, and correct me if I'm wrong, weren't you arrested for assaulting a mountain biker? If that was indeed you, could you tell the audience how many charges you were found guilty of?

Now, I've not had time to read your entire lit review yet, but given your stated biases it would incredibly easy to hand wave it all away with nothing more than a passive glance, 'yes, but he would say that wouldn't he'. I've seen little evidence that the authors of the papers are mountain bikers yet there is clear evidence of your own bias.

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Posted by JimmyJones on 10/04/2018 at 5:22 PM

Re: “The Contentious E-Bike Debate: Fact vs. Opinion

I know that Mike Vandeman is nothing more than a (dangerous) troll, but there's very little science to back up his claims. In fact, some of it even says the opposite. Here's some light reading on the erosion impact of trail users.

Chiu, Luke, and Kriwoken, Lorne, Managing Recreational Mountain Biking in Wellington Park, Tasmania, Australia, Annals of Leisure Research, Volume 6, Issue 4, 2003

Olive, Nathaniel D., and Marion, Jeffrey L., The influence of use-related, environmental, and managerial factors on soil loss from recreational trails, Journal of Environmental Management, Volume 90, Issue 3, p. 1483-1493, DOI: 10.1016/j.jenvman.2008.10.004,
Published Mar 2009

Wilson, John, and Seney, Joseph, Erosional impact of hikers, horses, motorcycles, and off-road bicycles on mountain trails in Montana, Mountain Research and Development, Volume 14, Issue 1, p. 77-88, DOI: 10.2307/3673739, Published Feb 1994

If anyone, Mike included, wants to argue about the impact that walkers can have one only needs to look at somewhere like the Old Man of Storr on Skye which is now a mess of braided, eroded dirt and mud. Anecdotally, bikers tend to stick to the trail they're on on not create new lines, where as walkers like keeping their feet dry and will, over time, widen trails and take short cuts.

End of the day, trails need managed and should be built sustainably. For everyone. Bikes with motors have the potential to cause issues and they should be carefully thought out and addressed. Everyone just wants to have fun, but we should all be considerate to others and the environment when we do it.

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Posted by JimmyJones on 10/04/2018 at 3:14 PM

Re: “The Contentious E-Bike Debate: Fact vs. Opinion

I agree with the stance WORCA are taking. Ebikes aren't mountain bikes (as much as riders want them to be) and as such there needs to be thought put into how they're handled. They are also (AFAIK) the neutral in this argument rather than the anti side.

Arguments from manufacturers and riders about them not increasing wear on trails are patently false. Any rider I know who's ridden one and the ones I've encountered on the trail have been more than happy to explain how many more laps they can do in the same amount of time. Again, anecdotal, but they tend to also rip up the trails at speeds that no one, even professional riders, could sustain. This is where the potential for conflict arises - not on the downhill.|

Arguments on weight I'm not sure really add up or are made by anyone truly clued up, but having said that, the extra weight applies across the board and a heavy rider with a bike is an even heavier combo if they're riding an ebike.

Trails such as LOTS are hard enough to get built when allowing only for self propelled bikes given the fragile alpine environment. Owners of ebikes need to either educate themselves or be educated about the access or these trails may never get built again.

Using the funicular railway in Aviemore, Scotland as an example. If you wish to ride or hike on the plateau, and area with a fragile environment where traffic should be limited, then you need to get yourself there by foot or pedal power. If you take the railway you cannot leave the visitor centre at the top.

"Everyone who rides these bikes wants one," - Not true. I've ridden one and couldn't imagine buying one. I enjoy the challenge of the climb and the workout you get.

"you will still get a great work out because if you're not peddling, you're not getting the power." - true that if you're not pedalling there's no power, but the rider is providing such a low wattage compared to the motor that it's not hard to ride along at 30mph with almost no effort.

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Posted by JimmyJones on 09/28/2018 at 1:49 PM

Re: “McMahon the man at Ironman

All the events in Whistler over the summer and winter months are for profit, otherwise what would be the point? They bring in massive amounts of money to the local economy and while some may appear to miss out they will be benefiting in the long run, whether they realize it or not.

There's also a pretty nasty undercurrent running through the complaints. Comments about 'elitism' and Chinese companies betray the real motivation for complaints.

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Posted by JimmyJones on 07/30/2018 at 1:07 PM

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